A visitor shares their experience attending the Grandview at Las Vegas timeshare presentation, and has the following tips and tricks to offer those attending for the free gifts:
Story is the same as everyone else. Huge scripted scam. Worthless property, over priced vacation packages and the list of lies is extremely amazing. You are told to look over at the new construction going on. And told how Grandview is the hottest timeshare place available. How the prices keep increases each year and if you dont buy now you wont reap the benefits of the hot market. After research the prices go form $50,000 all the way down to $5000 if you keep saying NO. You also will receive a free cruise for 2 but this is also another scam. The cruise is worthless also.
They confuse you and try and get you brainwashed during the whole presentation. I would not be surprised if there are some subliminal tactics or hypnosis being used. I think the power of suggestion and the constant lies help trick the weak minded into making a bad decision. Thank God above my wife and I are extremely intelligent and could see it was a scam within a few minutes of the presentation.
It was easy for us to say NO. And I offered the sales man a chance to wrap things up because he was past his 3 hour limit and I had nothing more to say and did not want to hear his bullshit anymore. He than told me I would be stuck at the Grandview for another 2 hours but if I wanted to leave sign up for the lowest package and he could get me a limo back to the hotel within 20 minutes.
I explained to him that I would call a cab and pay the $50-$100 cab fare before I waited 2 hours more and that he could kiss my A.$.$. if he thought I was going fall for that. I actually went downstairs right up to a shuttle driver and told him if he did not take me back to the strip within 20 minutes I would be forced to call the police for being held against my will. Needless to say the engine started and my wife and I had the biggest limo in town. A shuttle bus to ourselves. These guys are idiots at the Grandview. But the worst part they trick and scam people. No offense it must suck to get scammed by complete idiot criminals but don’t feel bad, hundreds of people do! That how they stay in business.
I hear people say “well if timeshares were really a scam than why do they still have them?”
Helloooooo… They still have them because money is being generated by scamming everyone. The scam isn’t the package its how your able to use it. The scam isn’t the cheap hotel they sell you a week stay for a year that equals to be $20,000 up to more than $70,000 within 20 years. For something that will only decrease in value. The scam is how they trick and force you into signing up. I did the math and after you pay your timeshare off (lets hope you only paid $5000) you are still looking at spending at the least $1500 per year for 2 people airfair/rental car/Grandview week or whatever points the jotted down on the mumbo jumbo contracts.
2 people can fly and stay a week at The Luxor for less than $1200, and then you would only have your regular expenses such as cab fare and food. You could upgrade to a expensive hotel and stay at the Venetian or something similar and spend less than $2000 for a week at the hotel and airfare for 2.
*** because you dont own anything with the timeshare you are not going to get anything out of paying for it. No one will buy it from you, and you are not likely to be able to rent it out. So why a timeshare if you can vacation cheaper going through travel package sites.
IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO CAN MAKE A TIMESHARE “INVESTMENT” MAKE SENSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!
THOSE WHO SAY THEY LOVE THEIR TIMESHARES ARE EITHER THE ONES WHO WERE SMART ENOUGH TO NOT OVER PAY, OR THEY ARE JUST SALES PEOPLE. EITHER WAY THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH SALES PEOPLE WHO CARE TO GET ON THE INTERNET TO DEFEND THEMSELVES WHEN THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF SITTING DUCKS IN THE LOBBY UNKNOWINGLY BEING HELD RANSOM FOR THE NEXT 5 HOURS TO FORCE INTO A CONTRACT.
THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO USE ANY TACTIC AVAILABLE. THEY ARE GREAT AT PROFILING AND PROBABLY TAKE COURSES TO PROFILE, AND SUGGEST THINGS THAT DONT ADD UP BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN MAKE IT ADD UP when you want to get the heck out of the GRANDVIEW ASAP. AND GUESS WHAT? NONE OF THE SALEs PITCH IS ON PRINTED PAPER. JUST A BLANK PAPER , A DEVIL WITH A PEN AND BUNCH OF NUMBERS BEING SHOT OUT OF THE BLUE. I DONT EVEN THINk THE SALEs MEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SELLING You. AS LONG AS YOU COME OUT THE DEPOSIT AND GET STRUNG ALONG PAST THE 5 DAY RESCIND PERIOD THEY CAN TAKE YOU TO THE BANK.
A SALESMAN WOULD ONLY HAVE TO CONN 1 SALE A DAY AND HE CAN GO HOME TO HIS BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND MAKE A MILLION DOLLARS WITHIN 10 YEARS WHILE YOU ARE LOOSING SLEEP, MONEY AND TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL YOUR REALLY PAYING FOR.
And guess what, you probably will be having the worst vacations of your life. The grandview is in the middle of no where. It was made for locals in the area. When you look at the parking lot 90% of the license plates say CALIFORNIA 9% say NEVADA 1% were probably rental cars. SO where are the time share owners?
SCAM! SCAM ! SCAM! Also why dont we think about googling the situation before we sign up. What cell phone doesn’t have internet now days? Seriously, how are we so dumbed down to actually just walk into the tour like a Zombie with a bank account. Best way to walk away is saying its past the 3 hour time limit. Give me my gifts , get me on the shuttle, or I will be calling the police for being held against my will. And then just get on the phone and call information (or pretend to call) and ask them to get you the Las Vegas police department number. Then you win!
I plan on taking time share tours more often. I would never say yes even if they were giving them out for free. I can easily say no and I will literally go insane if they dont understand what NO means. Law is 3 hours max. Anything after that you can start tripping out. And I suggest you start tripping out in front of other potential buyers. Just softly tell the sales people, “I am about to F-N lose it in few minutes and start causing a scene. Get me my gifts and get me out of here now or its about to go down!”
I hope my advice will help us all! I also hope it helps those who go with the intention on just getting free gifts know what they need to do to get out of their with the gifts and not a timeshare.